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đź“Ą Quick navigation:
0:00–1:15 Who is Leo and his profile
1:15–3:20 What triggers him and what helps
3:20–5:45 Counter-Control phrases and the Coupon Economy
5:45–7:30 Daily schedule with his needs built in
7:30–9:00 What to do if he escalates
9:00–10:00 For new staff and substitutes
What this is: A casual two-host conversation about Leo's profile, challenges, and strategies. One host (BCBA) explains the clinical reasoning; the other (classroom teacher) shares classroom examples. More conversational than a narration—easier to stay engaged while doing other tasks.
🎙 Host roles:
Dr. Alex (BCBA)
Explains why Leo does what he does—the neurobiology, the PDA profile, the behavioral science behind the strategies.
Sarah (Classroom Teacher)
Shares what actually works in the classroom—the real moments when Counter-Control worked, when it didn't, and what she learned along the way.
Below is a sample transcript of the dialogue version (first 3 minutes). A full transcript of both narrated and dialogue versions is available as a PDF.
Alex
"Hi, I'm Dr. Alex Martinez, and this is Sarah Chen, who teaches Leo's classroom. We're going to walk through Leo's profile and the strategies that are working for him. Sarah, you've been with Leo for two months now. When he first joined your class, what was the biggest challenge?"
Sarah
"Transitions. Every transition—lining up, switching activities, even things he actually likes—he would refuse. It felt like I was doing something wrong because he seemed to like me and the classroom. I didn't understand why he'd shut down the moment I asked him to move."
Alex
"That's the key insight. It's not about the activity. Leo has what's called a PDA profile—Pathological Demand Avoidance. His nervous system perceives a demand, especially an unexpected one, as a threat to his autonomy. His anxiety spikes, and refusal is his way of saying 'I need control.' It's not defiance."
Sarah
"Okay, so when I said 'Time to line up for lunch,' his brain heard that as me taking control, not as a helpful instruction. Is that right?"
Alex
"Exactly. And here's the thing—if you then insist, if you push harder, his anxiety gets higher. So the strategy isn't to push back. It's to give him control within the structure. So instead of 'Time to line up,' you'd say 'In two minutes, we're going to line up for lunch. Do you want to walk first or help me count people in line?' You've given him autonomy while still achieving the same outcome."
Sarah
"I tried that yesterday. I said 'In two minutes we're moving to math. Do you want to bring a pencil or have me get one for you?' And he just said 'Okay' and moved. I was shocked it worked."
Alex
"That's because his nervous system got what it needed—predictability and a sense of agency. When those are met, he can cooperate. Without them, he can't. It's not a behavior problem; it's a regulation problem."
Full transcript available: Download as PDF for offline reading or sharing with team members.